AR13: Couples Session: Abandoning Yourself by People Pleasing and Overgiving

Zoe and Pheobe have been best friends for many years. They came to me to explore the origin of their friendship and to take a look at any past lives they may have had together. Both of them have been struggling with abandoning themselves by trying to please others. Sometimes to the detriment of their own health. With the help of their Angels and Guides, I am able to come up with some effective solutions to move forward in more sovereign energy. 

Transcript

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Speaker 1
So if you are in deep, deep people, pleasing the other person isn't asking for you to do that. You're doing it of your own free will. You're trying to do everything right. You're trying to do things that would make them happy. You're trying to make their lives easier. You're trying to. Trying to, trying to. And the other person isn't asking you to do any of these things.

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Speaker 1
And so if you are in a place where you are trying to help others and you are abandoning yourself, you're not paying attention to what your inner self is saying, then the only place that that is going to go is resentment.

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Speaker 1
Welcome to the Akashic Recordings. I'm in that Tolu Akashic conduit channel and spiritual guidance coach. I want to thank you for joining me today. The Akashic Recordings is created through the cooperation of my clients who have agreed to have their sessions recorded. Of course, with their permission, I am able to share these beautiful sessions with you. If you are interested in booking a session with me, you can go to my website at Infinite Soul love.com.

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Speaker 2
In today's episode, we meet Zoe and Phoebe, two best friends who want to explore the dynamics of their friendship, as well as their habit of abandoning themselves for others.

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Speaker 1
Okay, so tell me what you would both like to cover today.

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Speaker 3
So I had a question about our relationship. We were just wondering if we had past lives together or if we were soul family. And then I guess the only question that I have is, like, something that I've had difficulty with my whole life, but is becoming more aware to me, like every year, is that I tend to kind of abandon myself to make other people happy.

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Speaker 3
And so I'm just wondering where that's coming from. Okay.

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Speaker 4
Yeah. Beyond that, I don't know that I have any specific questions other than where we go, like what we what comes up. I guess.

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Speaker 1
So we'll do the chakra scan for both of you, and then we will open the records. And then we will just sort of see where the guides want us to go first. So I'm good.

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Speaker 3
Yes.

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Speaker 1
Okay. So we're going to start with Zoe's root chakra first. So there's splitting it in two. Right now they're saying that they're going to show it to me in relation to Phoebe and then on your own as well. So in relation to Phoebe you're in a place of stability and harmony. I'm hearing rock solid, and this is something that has been going on for many, many lifetimes.

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Speaker 1
You've cultivated this stability with each other for quite a while. And then I'm going to look at Phoebe's root chakra. So it's interesting because Phoebe's root chakra is not as grounded. It's almost as if Zoe, you're grounding the friendship for the both of you in terms of that solidness. And it's not to say one is better than the other, it's just that Phoebe has a tendency in her root chakra to be more movable.

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Speaker 1
She's definitely more in a space of a transience. So is is able to very much move her energy where she needs it to go. And then, Zoe, you're more of that anchor for the two of you, which is a really beautiful balance to have between the two of you, because somebody does need to be the anchor, and then somebody needs to sort of do the ethereal exploring, and that's kind of what your roles are.

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Speaker 1
We're going to take a look at a lifetime between the two of you where something happened, and it actually had a pretty big effect on you. Zoe. But then, Phoebe, it didn't have a big effect on. Basically, you brushed it aside and were able to sort of move through that energy really quickly. And there is sort of a misunderstanding there for Zoe as you're going through this and saying, well, I don't understand how this couldn't have affected you the way that it affected me.

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Speaker 1
So we'll we'll take a look at what that lifetime was that sort of had an effect on both of you. Okay. So then let's move that energy up to the solar plexus chakra. You amplify each other, you amplify each other's personal power. You made a vow to each other a long, long time ago and many lifetimes ago, never to tear each other down, always to lift each other up.

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Speaker 1
And it's not to say that you don't have misunderstandings, or you don't have times where you have had disagreements, but it's always in a way that is still with love. It's almost as if you each regard each other in higher esteem than you regard yourselves. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3
Yeah, I connect with all of that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
So okay. So is that a vow that we need to clear or can we keep that in place? That is up to them. Okay. So that's up to you both if you want to keep that vow or not.

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Speaker 3
I think that's a great vow. I don't want to lose that.

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Speaker 4
I like the vow, but I want you to hold yourself in a higher regard than me.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, I guess that's my first question, right? It's kind of hard. I feel like I'm in that vow with everybody then.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. And that is something that will. We'll definitely cover and that's putting others before self sacrifice. Right. And that is it. That's what it is. It's a sacrifice. And it kind of gets into that codependency. Here's what we can do. We can clear the vow. But then that doesn't mean that you don't have to keep each other in high esteem.

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Speaker 1
Just because you didn't make a vow doesn't mean you're not going to still lift each other up. You still are going to do that because that's who you are. But getting rid of the vow will just sort of remove any sort of energetic obligation, if you will.

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Speaker 3
So then, like anything, we do for each other is out of like pure heart versus yes.

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Speaker 1
Okay. Versus the vow. Yeah. Feel into it. You don't have to decide now. That's something we can do later on in the session. But just feel into it when we get there and just if it feels right to clear it, cool. If not, then don't do it. It's totally fine. It's either one. Once we get more information, you can make that decision.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, that'll be great.

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Speaker 1
Okay, so then let's move that energy into your heart spaces. You know, it's really funny because the the visuals that I keep on getting is that Phoebe is almost like, you have wings, like you're almost floating above the earth most of the time. Zoe, you are like, much more grounded, as I said, in the root chakra. What's interesting about your hearts is I'm seeing that Zoe has half of her heart, is beautiful and bright and pink and lovely and the other half of her heart is black and decaying, and that is indicative of the past.

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Speaker 1
So that has to do with a past life. That has to do with the past experience. And we will cover that past experience in this session. The interesting thing is, is that I'm seeing Phoebe grab your hand, and it's almost as if she's flying and she's trying to pull you out of the past. She's saying, don't pay attention to that.

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Speaker 1
Stop looking at that. Let's move on. Let's move forward. We don't have to look back now. There's like a tug of war almost, because whereas Phoebe has a tendency to just not look back, she just acts and just moves forward. Zoe, you have a tendency to sort of stay rooted in the past, and you're not wrong in the sense that your reasonings are saying, well, I don't want to repeat the same mistakes we did before.

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Speaker 1
I don't want to do the same things we did before. I want to be able to move forward. So in order to not repeat the same mistakes, we need to remember the past. We need to see what we did so we don't make the same mistakes. And what Phoebe is saying, she's like, yeah, but we don't have to live in the past.

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Speaker 1
We can remember it and we can say, yeah, we're not going to make those same mistakes, but we don't have to have our energy reside there. Her energy is trying to pull you up out of the past fearful. All right. So then let's move that energy down into your throat. Chakras while you talk a lot. The two of you.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Like I'm seeing, like, hours and hours and hours of conversation. And you're both really good communicators to to each other. You're very aware of each other's sensitivities. You're aware of where each other is in terms of your insecurities and the pain points that you have. And you're both very careful about not trying to push each other's buttons.

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Speaker 1
That's not the purpose of your relationship. It's there as a supportive nature. We have plenty of people in our lives to push our buttons, so we always need a few people that don't. Absolutely. All right, so then let's let that energy land softly in your heart space. Keeping us connected to that beautiful Gaia energy while we access the Akashic Records.

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Speaker 1
I want to thank a cooler. My Akashic Guide. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you to Archangel Metatron and Archangel Santa on for allowing us access to the Akashic Records today. Okay, so of the lifetimes that we need to look at, where do we need to go? First, the root chakra. Yeah, that's what I thought. So real quick question.

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Speaker 1
In terms of soul family, so are Phoebe and Zoe. Soul family. Yes they are. They are soul family. But they do have very different jobs, so to speak, within the soul family, which is why their energy is very complementary and it is very different. All right. So we'll go ahead and show us what happened in the lifetime where Zoe is looking into the past, always where she's worried about repeating the past.

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Speaker 1
Okay. This is the lifetime where you made the vow. So your sisters in this lifetime that we're looking at. And I'm getting that this was about seven lifetimes ago. Zoe is the older sister. Phoebe is the younger. There are no siblings in between. But you do have older siblings. You were not a particularly wealthy family, but you were a family that did have some money.

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Speaker 1
So you weren't super poor, but you weren't also part of what you would call society, if you will. Your older siblings were able to move on with their lives, get jobs, get married, have families, and you had a decent age gap between the two of you, between Zoe and Phoebe, I'm hearing that it was about four years, and the problem was, is that Zoe really wanted to move on with the rest of her siblings.

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Speaker 1
She wanted to be one of the people who goes out and gets a job or is able to to help around the farm where you worked. You had a farm, you had stables, you had animals, you had a bunch of different things going on in the place where you lived. But if you were working on the farm, if you were helping out, basically what that meant is that you were able to go into town every once in a while, and this is something that you really, really wanted to do.

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Speaker 1
You wanted to be able to leave the house and leave the area where you lived. You wanted to be able to explore other things. And more times than not, what happened was your mom and dad left with the older siblings to go into town and left you to look after Phoebe, which created a lot of resentment. You were really irritated that you were always left behind because of your sister, so you felt like she held you back in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 1
And what you didn't realize was that your parents didn't do it on purpose. It's not like they didn't want you coming into town with them. It's just that from a practicality standpoint, your mom needed to go to town because she needed to run certain errands, and then your father also, and then the other kids that were older were going to be more of a help.

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Speaker 1
And so you formed this sort of idea at a pretty young age that your family didn't care about your needs, that your family didn't care about the things that you desired, and then you blamed it on your little sister. You blamed it on Phoebe. Now, Phoebe was just a small baby at the time. She was no more than two when you sort of formed this idea and then this idea just sort of grew as you got older.

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Speaker 1
And it started with not necessarily your parents not letting you do the things you wanted to do, but basically your job very quickly became just sort of babysitter and that you had to look after her. What it created in Phoebe was a little bit of an abandonment wound, because I keep on hearing her say, like, I don't understand why you can't just love me, why can't you love me?

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Speaker 1
And it's not that Zoe didn't love her, it's that she was in her own wounding about not getting the things that she needed or that she wanted because she essentially had to watch over her sister. As you both got older, the resentment grew. And Zoe, you kind of created this overall bad attitude where everything your parents wanted you to do, you hated, you kind of became like a little jaded and a little mean to people, actually.

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Speaker 1
And so when your sister grew up and she was a little bit older, she just had this really beautiful, angelic energy about her, and people just sort of gravitated towards her, which then made you even more angry because, like, you dedicated your life to basically raising her and helping her, and then all of a sudden, like, she's getting all the attention.

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Speaker 1
She ended up getting married. Phoebe did, and she married somebody of great wealth, which was highly unusual at the time. But the man who married her just fell in love with her astounding beauty. And Zoe became much more resentful as well, because she had no prospects and she was working at the time, which she did love. She loved her work, and she ultimately didn't even want a family after raising her sister.

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Speaker 1
She didn't want to have children because she thought that it was just too much. It took too much out of you. And so that was her idea of having a child, was that it was just too much and it sacrificed too much. What she was putting out into the universe is that she did not want to get married or have children, even though she did in a certain way, and also because of societal pressures.

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Speaker 1
Phoebe was never angry at Zoe, though, because she understood she knew why. So we had this anger about her. She felt bad for her. She felt bad that this is what she felt and how she moved through the rest of her life. And Zoe ended up taking care of your parents in their older age. You never did leave the house.

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Speaker 1
You stayed in the house where you grew up in, which is the one thing that you didn't want to have happen. It was almost like it was a self-fulfilling prophecy based on your jealousy, your anger, and the frustration. So that's the life time that they were referring to, that they are saying that you didn't want to repeat, you didn't want to repeat that lifetime and have that anger and resentment towards Phoebe.

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Speaker 1
Okay. So when was the vow created? When did they make The vow? So later in life, Phoebe got very sick to the point where she almost died, and it was at her hospital bed that Zoe held her hand and did apologize for the anger and the attitude that she had when she was younger. She was able to finally express her full love for Phoebe.

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Speaker 1
And I'm hearing you both saying, let's promise to always support each other from here on out, and let's promise to always be there for each other and help each other lift each other up. Phoebe is saying to Zoe that she tried to lift her up. She tried to help her out of that past of that resentment, but you were just so stuck in it that you couldn't see a way out.

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Speaker 1
So it was from that point on that you decided to have an appreciation for each other. You did grow closer towards the end of your lifetimes in that lifetime. And Zoe, you made your peace about never leaving the home after your parents died. You just sort of took over the home and it was yours. You took over the farm and the animals and all of the other things that you did.

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Speaker 1
I don't know why they're showing me this, but they're saying you had bees as well. Like you kept bees like honey that you sold in town and things like that. I think they're showing that to me because that was something you really enjoyed. That was like a piece of the work that you did that you loved. You loved taking care of the bees.

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Speaker 1
Like connecting with nature was one of your biggest joys. All right. So I'm going to pause right there and ask both of you if you have any questions about that lifetime.

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Speaker 3
I don't have anything. Do you? Anything?

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Speaker 4
I don't think so. I was really very interesting to hear. Thank you.

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Speaker 1
Okay. So then based on that information, is the vow that you made in that lifetime. Is it something that you both would like to keep or release? What do you.

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Speaker 3
Think? I guess, like if it releases any type of codependency, I would say yes. But also I just, I don't know, I think it's like a beautiful promise to, like, always lift each other up. I feel like we've done that in our relationship so far, and I wouldn't want that to change.

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Speaker 1
All right. So what we're going to do is we're going to update the vow then, okay. We'll make a little modification okay.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. Good.

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Speaker 1
So what I'd like to do is I'd like you to imagine that you're both standing in a field of grass and flowers, and surrounding you is a circle of trees, and that is offering up a beautiful barrier of divine light protection. And I'd like you to imagine that in front of you there's a door. And I would like you to open the door and walk inside.

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Speaker 1
On the other side of the store is your sacred space. It is where your Akashic Records are held, and I would like you each to imagine that there is a pedestal with a book. Each book is respective to your journey to your records, and it contains the signatures of everyone you've ever had any interactions with over the course of your lifetime here on Earth.

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Speaker 1
And we're going to open both books to the section where this vow resides, and we're going to ask the both of you to release each other from this older vow, keeping all the lessons intact, but removing any vow that was taken at that time. And I'd like you to imagine that you're both signing the Akashic Records and releasing each other from that vow from seven lifetimes ago.

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Speaker 1
Okay, so I'm sensing some hesitation on Phoebe's side. So the one thing I do want to mention is that this process of removing this veil, we're then going to rewrite the veil. So then you can sort of update it. So we're getting rid of the old energy, and we're going to bring it back into the new energy. And we'll create a different veil for you okay okay okay.

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Speaker 1
It is done. Okay. Great. Thank you. So then I would like you to imagine that you're turning to a brand new page in the book, and you're creating a vow together right now. And we're going to start the vow with I vow to always lift you up to the best of my abilities, as long as my energy allows it until the end of this lifetime, by which this vow can be renewed for another lifetime.

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Speaker 1
So how does that feel for both of you?

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Speaker 3
Feels great to me.

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Speaker 4
Feels really good.

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Speaker 1
Good. Okay, so the reason why I had that particular wording is because we want to make sure that it is only as your energy allows, and that sort of removes that potential for codependency. So if your energy is not in a place where you can uplift each other, then you need to go and connect with yourself and cultivate that that energy within yourself, and then give yourself what you need.

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Speaker 1
And then from that point, then you can help each other, all of it. And then also the the caveat of doing this always until the end of this lifetime, then it's renewable upon your deaths land. Or once you cross over, you can decide to renew that vow. If you want to for the next lifetime. But then that way you're not living with something from the past in the next lifetime as well.

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Speaker 4
Fantastic. Thank you.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Thank you.

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Speaker 1
Is there anything else that you both think that you would like to add to that?

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Speaker 4
That is what do you think I.

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Speaker 3
Like it I think that it's it's simple but it it cuts straight to the point.

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Speaker 4
Exactly.

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Speaker 1
Wonderful. Okay. So we're going to move on to the people pleasing for you, Zoe, because it is going to be connected to the heart chakra that we talked about. And it's also going to be connected to what we talked about with Phoebe sort of trying to lift you out of the past as well. So all of that is connected.

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Speaker 1
So we'll take a look. So you have had lifetimes where you have not incarnated together. And that's pretty normal when you have soul family. There are times when we will stay on the other side for one or the other, where maybe Phoebe, you were the spirit guide for Zoe in a particular lifetime, and then maybe in another lifetime.

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Speaker 1
It's vice versa. We don't always decide to incarnate together, even if we do incarnate at the same time. Sometimes we won't incarnate in the same places. You both might incarnate in a particular time, but not ever actually meet. So you can have different experiences. You were not always going to have experiences with people from our soul family, because we need to have different experiences.

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Speaker 1
Otherwise we won't learn. So this particular lifetime was one where Zoe was incarnated on earth. Phoebe was not. And this was a really, really dark, dark time not only for Earth, but also for Zoe overall. So let's take a look at what happened. Oh gosh. Okay, so I'm seeing Phoebe on the other side as a spirit guide, literally like covering her eyes, going, oh God, no no no no.

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Speaker 1
Oh my God. It's like a you're watching a train wreck and you can't do anything to stop it. This is part of the reason why it is super, super important to ask your spirit team, your angels, your guides of the highest light to help you. And I like to try to do it every day. I don't always remember every day, but it is always something that you do to help get through the day, and your angels and guides can help you.

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Speaker 1
At the time, you didn't know Zoe, that this is something you could do. So then let's take a look at what was actually happening. I've never seen this before. Basically, the life that you signed up for Zoe in that lifetime didn't happen. You were born as a child, as a baby, and you were kidnaped and taken away from your parents.

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Speaker 1
So the whole life that you had planned for that particular lifetime as a soul was completely null and void, because basically you were kidnaped from your parents and that was not meant to happen. So then because you were kidnaped from your parents, you ended up having this whole other life that you were just not meant to have.

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Speaker 3
Wow. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1
And it wasn't it wasn't a great one either, because you were kidnaped, you were put into I'm hearing like it's like child slavery, essentially. And it was really, really difficult because you as a soul remembered the love of your parents even though you were an infant, even though you were a baby, you still did remember that love of your parents when you first were born.

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Speaker 1
And so to have that love within you and to know that love, but then to not have it and then not remember your parents and not remember any of that, and just think that you were just born into this awful situation was really jarring for you and for your soul, like your soul in your body was kind of like, this isn't right.

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Speaker 1
It was like your soul was in prison. Like, like pounding on the bars going, we're not supposed to be here, you know, like we're supposed to be somewhere else. There was a lot of of things that happened to you in that lifetime that just never should have happened. Okay, so do we need to see anything else? We don't.

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Speaker 1
Okay. They're saying that we don't need to see the nitty gritty of everything that happened, because in fact, it wasn't supposed to. So to keep it sort of going in your energy field doesn't actually serve you. So we can just make the assumption that the rest of that lifetime was probably not the best for you.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. That's good. Yeah. I was like, it's good to skip over that.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then also to help you to understand that any feelings that you have of fear of something really bad happening to you is coming from this lifetime. So if you ever have just this really weird, disjointed feeling that something bad is going to happen, that's where it's coming from.

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Speaker 3
Well, I have always had this, like, innate fear inside of me that I'm going to be homeless and it's like really pushed me to do everything in my life. But I don't know if that has anything to do with that.

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Speaker 1
It does.

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Speaker 3
Oh, wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
Because even though you weren't homeless necessarily in that lifetime, you were alone. If you didn't continue doing the things for these people who kidnaped you, if you didn't continue doing the things, you would be homeless. You would be on the street.

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Speaker 3
That's exactly how I feel my life now.

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Speaker 1
Yeah. It's kind of this feeling of being tied to something that maybe you don't want to do, but yet you feel like if you don't do it, you're you. You have no other choice.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. Wow. Okay.

00;24;16;09 - 00;24;37;10
Speaker 1
Every time you have that feeling, they want you to just take a deep breath and imagine that version of yourself from that previous lifetime. Just give her a hug and let her know that everything is going to be okay. Because you have you you have your skills, you have your smarts, your brain, you have your abilities, you have everything that you need to succeed.

00;24;37;13 - 00;24;58;05
Speaker 1
And also the universe supports you. And you know this already because you've seen the support that you've received from the universe. You've seen it. And also like they're extra supportive because we get this sort of support after having a lifetime like that, where it's like, that wasn't supposed to happen. So, okay, the next few lifetimes, we're going to help her out a little bit so you get a little bit of extra support.

00;24;58;12 - 00;25;00;17
Speaker 3
That's nice. Yeah, I do feel it.

00;25;00;19 - 00;25;26;28
Speaker 1
Yeah. And then for Phoebe, the feeling of helplessness, of not being able to help, the feeling of standing by and having to watch what was happening without being able to do anything, having your hands tied, not being able to take action on something. That frustration is something that really permeated in that particular period of time. So we're going to remove any and all psychic debris from that lifetime from both Zoe and from Phoebe.

00;25;27;01 - 00;25;49;09
Speaker 1
Okay, so there is one thing they're wanting me to to mention to you. Phoebe, you do have a tendency to move forward with things and just say, hey, just don't look at the past. Don't don't worry about what what's happened in the past. Just let's move forward and go into the brighter future. What they want to share with you is that in order for Zoe to heal from this, she needed to look at the past.

00;25;49;11 - 00;26;06;21
Speaker 1
There are times when we do need to look at the past in order to heal. Like to just ignore it and move on. That feeling that we have in sort of the back of our consciousness is going to continue to get bigger and bigger and bigger until you deal with it. You are correct that yes, we do need to move on.

00;26;06;21 - 00;26;29;01
Speaker 1
We do need to move forward in new energy. There are times, though, that we do need to deal with the old energy before we move forward. It's not necessarily something that you do as a human. It's more on a soul level that you do this. So this is just to speak to your soul, to help your soul understand and know that it is okay to go into the past and to look and to see what needs to be healed.

00;26;29;06 - 00;26;33;16
Speaker 4
I think it's a good reminder for my human self too. So thank you.

00;26;33;22 - 00;26;54;26
Speaker 1
Yeah, well, because a lot of times, especially when we're going through a spiritual journey, sometimes we have a tendency to do what they call the spiritual bypassing. Spiritual bypassing looks a lot like toxic positivity. It's like, oh, everything's great, and I'm just going to meditate my way through everything, and I don't have to worry about any darkness because it's not there.

00;26;54;26 - 00;27;13;06
Speaker 1
It doesn't exist. It's only light. Light only exists. And if I'm only in the light, then a darkness can't touch me. And all of those things are true to an extent. But if you're just sort of glazing over what you truly feel inside, it's like something that's going to grow under the surface until it gets so big that you're going to have to deal with it.

00;27;13;08 - 00;27;55;12
Speaker 1
Right now, it's about really connecting to what you are truly feeling, what is truly going on within yourself your soul, your inner self, your inner child, your higher self. Like all of those pieces of you and how they're feeling. This is why on this journey, like checking in with yourself is going to be really important. This is a really good segue to, well, to both of you really to be able to connect with whether or not you're acting out of codependency, whether you're acting out of love, or whether you're sacrificing yourself for somebody else, checking in with your heart and saying, okay, Zoe really needs my help on this thing right now.

00;27;55;12 - 00;28;12;28
Speaker 1
I need to check in with myself to see if I have the energy, the bandwidth, the time, the ability to help her right now. And so that's where you check in with your heart. You ask your heart how does it feel? If I were to go and help Zoe with this thing and if it feels good, okay, great.

00;28;12;28 - 00;28;30;29
Speaker 1
And then I want you to check in with your inner child, which is any number of versions of you. It could be a five year old version of you. It could be a 12 year old version of you. It could be the current version of you. But still, in that, that really childlike energy and really asking what it is that she needs right now.

00;28;31;06 - 00;28;49;19
Speaker 1
Now, I know my inner child most of the time is always saying that she wants to play because I don't play enough anymore, or that she wants to just have fun because I don't have fun as much as I used to like things like that. And so really asking what she needs in that moment and then saying, okay, is this something that I need to do before I can help?

00;28;49;22 - 00;29;06;11
Speaker 1
This goes between the two of you to really check in with your selves, to see what your energy is like before you can step in and help each other. This can look like in a practical sense. So let's say if Phoebe, you've had a really bad day and you want to talk to Zoe about it and you say, hey, are you available?

00;29;06;11 - 00;29;20;15
Speaker 1
I'd like to chat. I had a really bad day today. And Zoe, let's say you also had a really bad day. And you can say to Phoebe, hey, you know what? I also had a really bad day. I don't know if I have the bandwidth to talk about it right now, but maybe we can talk about it tomorrow.

00;29;20;21 - 00;29;42;05
Speaker 1
That's a really good way of sort of communicating that and just saying, hey, I need some time to myself and I need to process what is going on myself before taking on somebody else's bad day. Yeah. Zoe, what are some of the other things that you do outside of your relationship with Phoebe where you are abandoning yourself? What are some of the big things that you've noticed?

00;29;42;11 - 00;30;11;05
Speaker 3
I abandoned my health in order to, like, keep the connection going. Like in a lot of ways, with my family and my friends, and even with work like, I tend to put, a relationship with them in front of my practice or like my ability to even, like, nourish myself. Yeah. Or like even just, like smoking or drinking or, you know, whatever it is that everybody else wants to do.

00;30;11;05 - 00;30;31;05
Speaker 3
And I end up like getting to a point of being burned out, like I am right now. I just feel like I always end up being left with a lot of stuff that I have to pick up after kind of putting myself into a position to make other people feel comfortable or feel like accepted, I don't know. That makes.

00;30;31;07 - 00;30;53;28
Speaker 1
It does. So there's a couple of things that I want to separate out. So the first thing is the vices. And when it comes to the vices, like drinking, smoking, doing anything in terms of advice, is it something that you are doing socially to be accepted and to feel like you're part of what is going on, or is it something that you personally use to cope?

00;30;53;29 - 00;31;07;12
Speaker 3
I would say that depending on who it's with, like if it's with my family, I would say it's a little bit of both. But then when I'm with my friends or coworkers or anything like that, it's definitely to just to make them feel better.

00;31;07;15 - 00;31;33;25
Speaker 1
The one thing that is insane to me, now that I'm sort of in this place spiritually, and sort of being able to see things from this perspective, is how much it is normalized that drinking and smoking and smoking pot and everything else is accepted and almost revered as a social norm. I used to smoke. I smoked for many, many years.

00;31;33;25 - 00;31;55;05
Speaker 1
I drank a whole lot over the course of the years. I used to smoke pot when I was in college, like I've done all of those things right. The thing is, is that I was doing it personally and this is my journey. I'm not putting this in the same context of what you're doing, but for my journey, I was doing it because I was covering up some really big grief that I had and some deep, deep pain that I had from past lives and things like that.

00;31;55;05 - 00;32;16;04
Speaker 1
So for me, it was actually a voice that I was using to cover up some of the emotions that I didn't want to feel. And once I worked through those emotions, which took decades. But once I worked through them, my desire to smoke went away entirely. My desire to drink went away entirely. I never would have thought I would be this person now that says no, I don't drink, but I don't anymore.

00;32;16;04 - 00;32;48;22
Speaker 1
Do I have, like a glass of champagne every once in a while? Sure. But for the most part, I don't drink anymore. And it's not to say that I'm vilifying it, but it's insane to me that we have to make other people feel comfortable with us by participating in those things. The one thing that they're showing me is that once you really start connecting into your heart and into your higher self, into your inner child and what you truly want for yourself, you're going to start to really connect to what it is that your body wants and what you need.

00;32;48;25 - 00;33;22;05
Speaker 1
And maybe there are those times when you do feel like we're just having a few glasses of wine or a few drinks or whatever, and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. But you might feel like there are times when you're like, you know what, I don't really feel like drinking today. And if you don't, to be able to have the courage to say to your family or to say to whoever else, I'm just going to drink this mocktail or whatever it is for tonight, because I just don't I don't feel like waking up and feeling like crap tomorrow or I don't feel like compromising my energy, because the one thing that is true about

00;33;22;05 - 00;33;42;14
Speaker 1
us, energetically and spiritually is that the higher we ascend in terms of our energy, the more difficult it is to be in the lower energies. And when you drink and you smoke and you do all of these things, it actually does lower your energy. There's going to come a point in time where it's going to actually become super duper uncomfortable to do these things.

00;33;42;14 - 00;34;04;02
Speaker 1
And actually, that's part of what happened to me is that like it actually started making me feel really, really awful when I would drink or smoke or anything like that. Once I realized, okay, I don't want to feel like this anymore. This feels really crappy. Once I moved through the grief and started to feel it and started to really release it, then, like I said, my desire to do these things sort of subsided.

00;34;04;09 - 00;34;23;11
Speaker 1
But then you're having to deal with the the social aspects of it. It does take practice. It takes practice to connect in with yourself, to see what is really aligned for you. And here's the thing. And again, I'm not vilifying drinking and having a good time doing all the things I'm saying that you really do need to just check in with yourself to see what is aligned for you.

00;34;23;13 - 00;34;44;21
Speaker 3
Yeah, I, I agree, I feel like for sure me, I feel like what you're saying about getting through your trauma and then once you're on the other side, like it's harder to partake in all that stuff. I feel like that is something that has been continually happening to me throughout my life. And the first time I got sober was like a couple years ago.

00;34;44;24 - 00;35;15;29
Speaker 3
And then or just kind of continued to, like, abandon myself for more specifically like my family and my friends. But I seem to have that aspect with a lot of other things. Like just recently I was talking to my boyfriend and I like, had an epiphany that one of the reasons why I don't like, take care of my body, like physically, is because I don't want to get to the point where I'm so pretty that I make other people feel bad, and so I end up like sacrificing my own physical health.

00;35;16;02 - 00;35;41;13
Speaker 3
And I do that with other things too. Like, I won't say what's on my mind because I don't want people to feel dumb or I don't like, express how I how I truly feel or become as successful as I want to be because I feel like it'll make other people feel bad. And so I just keep, like, holding myself back in this, like, container of what other people expect of me or what other people will accept from me because of their feelings.

00;35;41;16 - 00;36;06;20
Speaker 1
So the first thing right away that I'm getting is that this is also because of the empathy that you created for yourself from that previous lifetime. When when Phoebe was ten, when she blossomed and was like an angel in that previous lifetime, and she got to marry up in that previous lifetime, and the fact that you knew how it felt to see her blossom and outshine you.

00;36;06;25 - 00;36;31;23
Speaker 1
And so you didn't ever want to make anybody else feel that way, because you know how it feels to feel like you are left behind or outshined. And so paying attention to the fact that this is this is merely a connection to this previous lifetime, where it's sort of this weird meta thing where you're almost by not wanting other people to feel bad.

00;36;31;26 - 00;36;40;09
Speaker 1
It's it's stemming from the fact that you had compassion for yourself, for feeling bad in that lifetime. Does that make sense?

00;36;40;11 - 00;36;40;20
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;36;40;27 - 00;37;13;12
Speaker 1
Okay. We're going to reframe this. So every single time you feel like you need to hold yourself back because of somebody else, so you can say something instead of saying, like, I'm afraid that somebody is going to be feeling bad about themselves because of my looks or because of my skills. Whatever the comment is, you can do the cancel, clear, delete and just say to yourself, my growth is for myself and it is to my benefit to not restrict my growth.

00;37;13;16 - 00;37;16;16
Speaker 3
Yeah, that sounds right. That sounds better.

00;37;16;24 - 00;37;56;04
Speaker 1
Okay, so start there and move into sort of the higher levels of I can be inspirational. We sort of are taught to be self-deprecating. And we are taught that yes, of course. Okay. So if we say that we're beautiful and that we're successful and that we're capable and all of these things that, that that makes us stuck on ourselves or narcissistic or something like that, and it depends on where the energy is coming from, if it's coming from a place of empowerment, if it's coming from a place of really knowing who you are as a soul, every single person on this planet would feel that way, because every single person on this planet, I don't

00;37;56;04 - 00;38;16;14
Speaker 1
care who you are, every soul within that human is beautiful. And I know it's hard to to imagine that because there are people in this world that are bad people that do bad things. Yes, of course there are. But they also have a pure soul within them. They just happen to have a lot of really crappy psychic debris around them that is having an effect on what they're doing in their human selves.

00;38;16;14 - 00;38;37;22
Speaker 1
But on a soul level, everybody's soul is pure. So when we start at that benchmark of everybody's soul is pure, everybody's soul is whole and beautiful, then we all are beautiful. We all are capable, we all have these abilities, and it's about allowing that to shine through. And eventually you might inspire somebody else to be able to let there shine through to.

00;38;37;26 - 00;38;50;02
Speaker 1
So do you feel the difference in that energy between that and like somebody who would be sort of just like kind of putting on airs and saying, look at me, I'm so inspirational. You know, it's like there's a vast difference in those two energies, right?

00;38;50;04 - 00;39;10;16
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. I like the idea of just like taking what other people think, just like out of the equation completely and just going through my day in my own energy and using that energy to decide what's right for me without a catalyst of how, how is this going to affect somebody else, especially if it's something that's good for me.

00;39;10;19 - 00;39;27;01
Speaker 1
Exactly. And then likewise, if it's something that isn't good for you, that's going to be another aspect of trying to figure out, okay, well, if this is going to offend somebody, what do I do? What do I do with that? I'll give you a really, really good example. This is actually kind of a funny example. So I grew up in a middle eastern household.

00;39;27;01 - 00;39;42;08
Speaker 1
So my aunt used to make food for an army of 20 on a daily basis. Like no matter when you walked into her house, she was making food for 20 people. And so I would walk in and she would say, oh, you have to eat. I've made so much food you have to eat. No, Auntie, I'm sorry, I'm not hungry.

00;39;42;14 - 00;39;59;29
Speaker 1
No, no, no. You have to eat. You have to eat. No, Andy, I'm. I'm not hungry. It's okay. No, no, no, you have to eat, okay? I finally would cave and I would eat. Yeah. And it's like, okay, so I'm doing that because I don't want to make her feel bad. I don't want her to feel bad that she's been cooking for an army of 20 every single day.

00;40;00;01 - 00;40;32;26
Speaker 1
But the thing is, is that it wasn't my decision for her to cook for 20 people every day. That was her decision. That was her way of making herself feel better. Was it a big deal? No. I was a child. Her food was really good. It was fine. But it's it's one of those things where if you are in a place where you are finally caving in to something that somebody is trying to put on you, that is abandoning yourself, finding ways to get through those types of situations is what you're going to need to do in terms of approaching the situations before they actually happen.

00;40;32;26 - 00;40;48;29
Speaker 1
So in that instance, what could I have done while I was a child? So I don't know that there was a lot that I could have done because I didn't have the knowledge that I do now. But if I were to walk into that situation now, I might say, Auntie, it's so wonderful that you are cooking all this food and I love your food.

00;40;48;29 - 00;41;11;10
Speaker 1
You know how much I love your food, but I really just ate. I'm not hungry, but I would be super happy to take some home for for dinner later on tonight. Or I'd be happy to take some home for tomorrow if if that's okay with you. Something like that. Finding a different way to to approach the situation. So you're feeling like, okay, you're acknowledging the fact that they want this for you, but you're also putting up a boundary.

00;41;11;10 - 00;41;28;15
Speaker 1
But it's a gentle boundary. It's not like a no back off. It's quit trying to tell me how to how to eat. It's not like you're putting up a really strong hostile boundary, but you're putting up a loving boundary, right? Okay, okay. Is there anything else that we need to cover for Zoe in terms of the people pleasing?

00;41;28;15 - 00;41;33;19
Speaker 1
Yes. Okay. What else do we need to cover? Phoebe, they're saying that you have a similar problem.

00;41;33;19 - 00;41;35;08
Speaker 3
Actually, yes she does.

00;41;35;14 - 00;41;38;02
Speaker 4
That's been known to dabble.

00;41;38;04 - 00;41;52;28
Speaker 1
All right. So we're going to take a look at that for you as well. It's going to be helpful for you as well, Zoe. But Phoebe has a slightly different take on it and what she does. All right. So let's take a look. So this isn't for you, Phoebe. This isn't from a past life. This is actually just from your upbringing.

00;41;53;03 - 00;42;25;14
Speaker 1
I'm seeing that your mom has been like this as well. This is kind of generational, actually. It seems like it specifically has to do with men. Are you in a relationship right now? I am, yes. So I am seeing that it's not so much with your current relationship, but in previous relationships as well as like generationally with your mom, your grandmother, like there's been a long line of history of women sacrificing themselves for their husbands, for their significant others, not in, in like, super big ways, but just in small ways.

00;42;25;14 - 00;42;49;29
Speaker 1
But it's like I'm hearing death by a thousand cuts. It's like little tiny ways of of sacrificing yourself, putting the other person first, putting the husband or the significant other first, putting their dreams first, putting their hopes first. Their needs mean more than mine. I'm stronger so I can handle it. That's interesting too. And looking at the the men in the family as not being as strong as the women.

00;42;49;29 - 00;43;12;00
Speaker 1
And so therefore they need more help. So sacrificing yourself for more of that. Okay. So is this something in the ancestral line that we need to clear. It is okay. All right. So we're going to take a look at where this originates in the ancestral line. They're saying to me that this this has been going on for six different generations in your family on your maternal side, but it has pretty much ended with you.

00;43;12;06 - 00;43;32;13
Speaker 1
It's part of what you came here to, to do is to sort of like clear this out of the ancestral line, but it's not fully gone yet. So we can actually clear that today. Let's take a look at where this originated. It was mostly societal. Okay. That's what I figured. They're showing me pictures of back in the day, back in the 60s, in the 50s and 40s and, you know, beyond.

00;43;32;13 - 00;43;53;20
Speaker 1
They would have these magazine articles or they would have these ads that basically say, like, here's how you can please your husband. Here's how you can make your husband feel more comfortable when he comes home from work every day. It was just bombardment and it was constant. Basically every ad of every magazine, everything always said, this is what you can do to please your husband.

00;43;53;23 - 00;44;18;12
Speaker 1
And this is sort of a societal thing that has been happening for centuries. I mean, quite frankly, many, many, many centuries. But with the last couple of centuries, with advertisements and things like that and magazines and newspapers and all of those things like it became much more prevalent as a collective thought to always live for your husband. And this is what we are meant to do.

00;44;18;12 - 00;44;53;23
Speaker 1
This is what our job and our role is in life. And so when this is permeated through an ancestral line, then it's not surprising if this also permeates through other parts of your life, not just relationships, but in other ways, abandoning yourself in other ways. All right. So we're going to imagine that you have your entire ancestral line going back six generations, and we're going to imagine them in a really big circle, and we're going to remove any and all collective consciousness that states that women are here to solely please their husbands, that they are here to sacrifice themselves for their husbands.

00;44;53;26 - 00;45;23;29
Speaker 1
We're going to remove any and all collective thought. We're going to remove any and all harmful behavior. We're going to remove any and all belief systems that state that we are not sovereign beings, that we are beholden to another. I'm going to ask for some divine like protection around every single ancestor. I'm going to ask for Saint Germain with his violet flame to remove any and all psychic debris surrounding these thought forms surrounding these ideas and beliefs, removing them entirely, allowing every single being to be sovereign in their own energy.

00;45;23;29 - 00;45;58;09
Speaker 1
To take control and be in charge of their own soul's trajectory and destiny without influence from outside sources. I would like to clear this on behalf of any single person on this planet that has the same thought form, that has the same belief, the same belief that women are here to serve men, the same belief that we need to sacrifice ourselves for men or for somebody else, sacrifice our needs, our wants, our desires, thereby empowering every single person, both men and women, all genders, across all directions of space, time, reality and dimension to be sovereign in their own beings.

00;45;58;11 - 00;46;02;09
Speaker 1
It is complete. Okay, okay, so, Phoebe, how do you feel?

00;46;02;11 - 00;46;09;25
Speaker 4
So good. I feel like that was something I've been working on for a while, so it feels really good. It just feels great. I'm sorry.

00;46;09;27 - 00;46;26;29
Speaker 1
Good, good, good. So when you feel that sort of creeping up again, you can always come back to this recording and re listen to that little clearing in that meditation. If you're feeling like you need a little extra support. Awesome. Is there anything in terms of your mom that you would like to share with me?

00;46;27;02 - 00;46;49;21
Speaker 4
Yeah, that's I think kind of the catalyst for me in my life was seeing how much she sacrificed of herself and how little she got in return for it, the stuff she's gone through. So she is working on herself now, though. She is going on kayak rides and making friends and it's been really beautiful to see.

00;46;49;24 - 00;46;52;03
Speaker 1
Oh that's great. Are your parents still together?

00;46;52;07 - 00;46;53;28
Speaker 4
No, they're not okay.

00;46;54;00 - 00;47;16;12
Speaker 1
It's really wonderful to see that in our in our families, in the people that we love, that they're finally standing up for themselves and and standing in their own power. And it can feel really good to see them do that and to understand that they need to do it on their own, that there's nothing that we can do to help them in that respect, except for maybe what we just did now, which is that energetic help.

00;47;16;12 - 00;47;37;27
Speaker 1
Energetic help is the best kind of help we can give. If ever you feel like you want to help with her, like if, let's say she she's going through a rough patch or something happens, that energetic work is the best way to help her, is to sort of connect into that collective energy and help clear that collective energy for her, and we can clear energy for other people.

00;47;37;27 - 00;48;05;06
Speaker 1
It's just the amount of time that it lasts is not very long because if you can imagine, if you're surrounded by clouds, somebody can come in with a fan and blow away the clouds for a period of time. But then the second you leave with your fan, those clouds are going to come back, right? So whatever she is working on, if you work on something together or on an energetic basis, it can help her to see clearly for a little while and then see her way.

00;48;05;06 - 00;48;21;15
Speaker 1
Even though she is, she does still have things that she needs to work through, but at least maybe she'll be able to see that there's a light at the end of the tunnel kind of thing. So she's in progress in doing all of this, and it's something that you can also learn from to see how she's moving through this.

00;48;21;15 - 00;48;36;03
Speaker 1
Because it's not that you need to learn from this because it's something that you're going through. But it's like, I feel like somehow you're going to be able to help other people by watching what she's going through. I'm guessing that, Zoe, you had some other questions. I sensed a question in there somewhere.

00;48;36;03 - 00;48;51;18
Speaker 3
Can you ask, like our spirit guides or channel how we first met? I was just kind of like a cling on to her. Like I just. She had this magnetism, and I just really wanted to be your friend. And it took her about, like, a year to start warming up to me, but I didn't. I just didn't quit.

00;48;51;18 - 00;48;53;12
Speaker 3
And I'm just wondering if there's anything about.

00;48;53;12 - 00;48;57;03
Speaker 1
That, about your how you met in this lifetime or overall.

00;48;57;03 - 00;48;58;13
Speaker 3
In this lifetime.

00;48;58;15 - 00;49;22;18
Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah, sure. Hold on. Let me check in. Remember, in the very beginning of the session, I said something about Phoebe's energy being ungrounded. So they're showing me Phoebe's energy, almost like it's on a string with a balloon. She's at the top with the balloon, and the string is just sort of dragging on the ground, so it's not full grounded into the earth, right?

00;49;22;18 - 00;49;46;23
Speaker 1
But it's touching the Earth. So that's kind of what I'm seeing. And so Zoe's soul knew that instant recognition when she saw Phoebe in this lifetime. She had that recognition of who she was. And she knew because she saw the the bright, angelic light coming from Phoebe. And we keep on using that term angelic because it is true.

00;49;46;28 - 00;50;17;09
Speaker 1
You both have ascended into your angelic statuses already. This is your second round on earth, if you will. The first time around is the first level of ascension, and that can take millions of years. But once you reach your ascension, then it is your choice to come back down to earth to incarnate for a second round, which is what both of your souls and your soul family had decided to do because of your individual experiences in the previous round of ascension.

00;50;17;14 - 00;50;54;11
Speaker 1
You have very specific soul signatures, and because of this, Zoe was very easily able to recognize Phoebe's soul signature. On a soul level, Phoebe's soul signature is like a beacon of light, whereas Zoe's soul signature is one of grounded love. Love for this planet, love for the nature on this planet, love for the humans on this planet. She has a great love for this place, whereas Phoebe is a bit more disconnected from this place, she doesn't feel that vast connection to all that is on this earth.

00;50;54;16 - 00;51;13;10
Speaker 1
It is part of the reason why she did not recognize your soul right away, because it was almost as if she was seeing it from the perspective of you were just like every other soul that she saw, because a lot of other souls that are grounded to this earth feel the same. They feel earthly, they feel like Gaia, they feel like Mother Earth.

00;51;13;11 - 00;51;34;12
Speaker 1
So it did take her a while to recognize your soul and to recognize the path that you had together. But that is not unusual. That's not something that is uncommon. It happens often where it takes a while for souls to recognize each other. Because you were younger, you were more malleable. It was easier to see the trajectory between the two of you.

00;51;34;14 - 00;51;54;03
Speaker 1
There is a knowing between the two of you. There is an understanding what your role is together and what you came here to accomplish together. You are the ultimate balance of yin and yang, if you will. The earthly energies and the heavenly energies mixed together. You are here to help others see that balance and understand that balance within themselves.

00;51;54;06 - 00;52;16;23
Speaker 1
You are also here to show people what it's like to have unconditionally loving friendships and connections. This is why forging your own path and not going on the path of others, following the path of others, or doing things to please others. It is the antithesis of what you came here to do. You are to be leaders, not followers, and the way that you lead is by example.

00;52;16;26 - 00;52;35;27
Speaker 1
Do not wait for permission. Do not ask for permission for stepping into your own power and doing the things that you need to do to step into your own power. Do only the things that are meant for you and that are aligned for you. This is how you will achieve the things you came here to achieve. You are in fact here to help each other in this process, as you already do.

00;52;35;29 - 00;52;40;01
Speaker 1
Is there anything else? No, not this time. Okay. Do either of you have any questions about that?

00;52;40;01 - 00;52;41;18
Speaker 3
What are we here to do?

00;52;41;24 - 00;53;10;16
Speaker 1
So they did just mentioned. They said that you're here to basically lead the way in showing people how to live and be in unconditionally loving connections with others. And so that's leading by example. So a lot of times the things that we're here to do as a soul, it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to do that as a job, but already so when you're sort of feeling like you want to go into that realm, you're feeling guided into that realm, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you have to do it for a living, but you certainly can.

00;53;10;19 - 00;53;44;00
Speaker 1
And so you both are showing the way and basically carving the path for people. And in order to do so, exactly what you're working on today, exactly the reason why you scheduled this call today, which was to work on those feelings of disempowering yourself or abandoning yourself for others. So understanding the connection between the two of you and what you're here to do, and the shadow sides of what you need to work on in order to fully step into that power, is basically everything that they've been sort of trying to guide you toward in this session.

00;53;44;02 - 00;53;50;21
Speaker 1
You don't necessarily need any other information regarding how that's going to unfold, because it'll unfold the way that it needs to.

00;53;50;22 - 00;53;51;05
Speaker 3
Okay.

00;53;51;10 - 00;54;08;09
Speaker 1
So they're saying don't worry about having to like go and change my whole life now. No, ultimately, the things that we're here to do on a soul level are usually pretty close to the things that we're already doing and pretty close to the natural talents that we already have. It's just about shifting and changing them as we grow and ascend.

00;54;08;10 - 00;54;09;19
Speaker 4
Carlson. Thank you.

00;54;09;22 - 00;54;12;12
Speaker 1
All right. You're welcome. Okay. So how do you both feel?

00;54;12;13 - 00;54;16;21
Speaker 3
I'm feeling good. I'm really happy that you decide to do this with me.

00;54;16;25 - 00;54;24;03
Speaker 4
Thank you for letting me join you. Is really an amazing feeling. So thank you for not for letting us experience this together.

00;54;24;07 - 00;54;41;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. Thank you so much for being here and holding this space for each other. All right. So I'm going to close the Akashic Records. Thank you so much to a call up my Akashic Guide. Thank you for being here. And thank you to Archangel Metatron and Archangel Santa often for allowing us access to the records. Today. The records are closed.

00;54;41;08 - 00;54;43;10
Speaker 1
The records are closed. The records are closed.

00;54;43;10 - 00;54;52;07
Speaker 3
Thank you.

00;54;52;09 - 00;55;16;13
Speaker 2
And a big thank you to Zoe and Phoebe for allowing us to record this session together, and that this was the second of our couples session in this season. The first one we had was Marco and Rose, who are in a romantic relationship, and today we had two best friends doing a session together. How often does it happen that you have friends doing a combined session?

00;55;16;15 - 00;55;51;23
Speaker 1
This was the first time actually. It was really wonderful to see that they wanted to do this session together, to sort of explore what their connection was, and it's not the first time I've looked into something like that, because I have obviously for other people. Regarding friendships, there's one thing that that comes up usually when you have a connection like that in friendships, and that is the connection that you have with the person that you are connected to, almost always ends up being somebody you have had previous lifetimes with.

00;55;51;25 - 00;56;03;20
Speaker 1
Everybody knows the people who they've known for lifetimes and the people that maybe they've just met in this lifetime. You can tell from a from a soul level, you can feel it.

00;56;03;20 - 00;56;11;21
Speaker 2
So then what happens if two people come to you for a session and they find out that they don't have any past lives together? What does that mean for them?

00;56;11;28 - 00;56;32;19
Speaker 1
It doesn't mean that it's it's detrimental or anything like that. So I'll use the example of my father. My father and I had never had any lifetimes together before, but that does not diminish our relationship from this lifetime. It still is a significant relationship. And he was there to teach me certain lessons. He was there to play a particular role.

00;56;32;23 - 00;56;50;02
Speaker 1
It doesn't diminish it. It just means that my heart connection, my soul connection with his soul, it just wasn't super, super strong from a human standpoint. We had a connection, but from a soul connection, you just didn't feel that strong knowing if you will.

00;56;50;04 - 00;56;55;21
Speaker 2
So what would two people be able to get out of a session if they didn't have any past lives together?

00;56;55;29 - 00;57;19;15
Speaker 1
If they didn't have any past lives together, then essentially we could find out why they're together in this lifetime. It wouldn't be all for nothing, because basically, we could find out their purpose in each other's lives. And then it's similar to what I did with Phoebe and Zoe, which is sort of explore some of the things that they need to work through together and how their relationship is unfolding in this current lifetime.

00;57;19;15 - 00;57;26;13
Speaker 1
So it doesn't always have to be about what's going on in the past lifetimes. It can be something that is going on in the current one.

00;57;26;16 - 00;57;32;29
Speaker 2
Would there be any reason to be afraid of what you're going to hear?

00;57;33;02 - 00;57;44;29
Speaker 1
It depends on the relationship. I think probably the scariest one would be if you were a romantic couple coming on to a session and.

00;57;45;01 - 00;57;48;19
Speaker 2
Imagine being told this is a terrible idea.

00;57;48;25 - 00;57;52;13
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;57;52;15 - 00;58;12;01
Speaker 1
Exactly. Yeah, I haven't had that yet. I have had that in individual sessions, obviously, but when you're in a couple session, that's probably the hardest when it comes to other fears. I think a lot of people get really nervous about if you have done something really awful to the other person in a previous lifetime or something to that effect.

00;58;12;03 - 00;58;28;11
Speaker 1
There's a lot of those types of fears as well. And the one thing I always say to people is that there is no judgment. And I will repeat that over and over and over again. That there is no judgment on the other side. And so no matter what you did, the only torment that you're going through is actually of your own doing.

00;58;28;14 - 00;58;50;09
Speaker 1
So your soul is hanging out on the other side going, yeah, we're cool, and your human self is sitting here. Self-Flagellating it is up to you on whether or not you're going to swim in that guilt from the previous lifetimes. The universe is beautiful in the way that it orchestrates things, and the guides are never going to tell somebody things that they're not ready to hear.

00;58;50;12 - 00;59;05;08
Speaker 1
But at the same time, some people, I think, are really nervous about finding out information like that. And that's that's where I say, don't worry. It's it's all it's a past life. You're not doing it now. This is not what you are here for in this lifetime. So don't worry.

00;59;05;11 - 00;59;10;24
Speaker 2
So would any two people in any kind of relationship be able to benefit?

00;59;10;27 - 00;59;32;08
Speaker 1
Absolutely. Yeah. Siblings, you name it, anybody. And actually I've had clients ask me about people they're about to date as well, which is kind of fun. Like they have a name and a birthday of somebody and they they've given me their permission and they've asked the person that they're dating that they're about to date, let's say they've gone out on a date or something like that, and they've asked for their permission.

00;59;32;08 - 00;59;49;05
Speaker 1
And so I'm able to connect in and see if they've had past lives together and if they have a purpose in this lifetime together. And it can kind of help you if you're in the dating scene, to find out if you're going to waste the next six years of your life or not. And it's it's not, again, something that I'm going to tell you.

00;59;49;07 - 00;59;57;29
Speaker 1
Yes, this is good for you. No it's not. I'm going to tell you what your purposes or purpose isn't and what the potential challenges could be. And then you need to make that decision.

00;59;58;04 - 01;00;23;19
Speaker 2
So one of the things that really came through for me in this session was the emotional maturity of these two women. They sounded like two very young women, and yet they just have this really deep, profound understanding of each other's emotional needs and complexities. And I was wondering, what would you have to say about the concept of conscious friendships, like the one between Zoe and Phoebe?

01;00;23;26 - 01;00;53;04
Speaker 1
So one of the things that I want to point out about Zoe and Phoebe was that what came out of the session was that they've already been on their ascension process once before. Basically, they are here to set the example and to show people how to be in these types of conscious relationships. So there's a reason why they are so young, and yet they have this emotional maturity and this spiritual maturity about each other and about their relationship.

01;00;53;09 - 01;01;19;24
Speaker 1
And there are more and more people who are coming into the human experience with this type of template, in this type of experience, to come in and change things. And because they had gone through their awakening process already, they don't have to work through the shadow, the pain, the challenges that, let's say you or I have had to go through in order to learn these things.

01;01;19;26 - 01;01;40;09
Speaker 1
So they have that sort of extra leg up in the sense that they're they're kind of almost born with that knowledge. Now, it doesn't necessarily mean that they remember that knowledge upon birth, but they certainly have the ability to uncover that knowledge as their lives go on, and it's going to get just stronger for both Zoe and Phoebe as they get older.

01;01;40;13 - 01;02;03;12
Speaker 1
It is something that is unique at this moment in time, simply because there's not a lot of example of it. In terms of the conscious friendships. Can you remember when you were younger, having friendships that were that connected as well as not rooted in sort of wounding and codependency? I don't know, I certainly didn't have a lot of friendships like that when I was younger.

01;02;03;14 - 01;02;15;11
Speaker 2
Certainly not with this level of insight. No, I did have supportive friendships, but nothing that you could compare to the kind of friendship that you're witnessing between these two women, I think is very impressive.

01;02;15;17 - 01;02;46;19
Speaker 1
I agree, and I think that most friendships could benefit from it, really. I mean, I was actually just speaking to a friend of mine yesterday, and she was having some challenges with one of her best friends, and one of the challenges is that she's been doing a lot of inner work. She's been doing a lot of work on herself, and her friend is basically sort of the same as she has been for the last many years, and it's starting to take a toll on their friendship.

01;02;46;22 - 01;03;10;07
Speaker 1
A session like that could mean the difference between being able to move forward in a new energy, in the friendship, and potentially ending the friendship, right? Obviously, it's the other person's decision on whether or not they want to actually do the work and look at this from different perspectives. But if you have somebody who's open and willing, then it could in fact save a friendship.

01;03;10;10 - 01;03;17;16
Speaker 2
And I would think that it would be really important for both people to be equally enthusiastic about their participation in the session.

01;03;17;19 - 01;03;34;27
Speaker 1
100%. Yeah, this goes for all relationships in the sense that if one person is not doing it because they want to, but they're doing it for the other person, you've already lost the whole point of what you're trying to do in a conscious relationship.

01;03;34;29 - 01;03;50;27
Speaker 2
Well, another important subject that came up in the session is the tendency that both of these women have of abandoning themselves in favor of others. So I wonder what you have to say about this particular tendency that we have as humans.

01;03;51;00 - 01;04;12;27
Speaker 1
It's what creates resentment, anger, hatred within yourself for somebody else. So if you are in deep, deep people pleasing the other person isn't asking for you to do that. You're doing it of your own free will. You're trying to do everything right. You're trying to do things that would make them happy. You're trying to make their lives easier.

01;04;12;27 - 01;04;40;26
Speaker 1
You're trying to, trying to, trying to. And the other person isn't asking you to do any of these things. And so if you are in a place where you are trying to help others and you are abandoning yourself, you're not paying attention to what your inner self is saying, then the only place that that is going to go is resentment, because the other person isn't going to give you what you need, because a more times than not, you don't even know what you need because you're not even focused on yourself.

01;04;40;26 - 01;05;04;21
Speaker 1
You're focused on somebody else. You're focused on the other person. So that's the first thing. You have to know what it is that you need in order for another person to give it to you. The second thing is that it needs to be communicated to the other person. If you need space, if you need help, if you need a hug, whatever it is that you need, you need to communicate that you can't just expect the other person to read your mind.

01;05;04;24 - 01;05;25;00
Speaker 1
Now, of course, if you've been in a relationship a really long time, you've practiced these beautiful conscious relationship tools, then yeah, you might be able to seamlessly get the things that you need from your partner or from your friend because you already know each other well enough that in this situation, I know that this person needs this one thing.

01;05;25;05 - 01;05;44;28
Speaker 1
Well, yeah, that's that's probably true most of the time. But maybe in that moment that person doesn't need that one thing. So that's where the communication is so, so important. Because you can't just assume that everyone is going to react or respond in the same way every single time, for every single situation. The consciousness part of this is exactly that.

01;05;44;28 - 01;06;05;23
Speaker 1
It's about being conscious about who you are, what you want, what you need, who the other person is in your life, what they mean to you, and then being able to have that vulnerability to communicate with that other person. Those needs, those desires, and then the other person will need to be equally as vulnerable. Where did people pleasing come from?

01;06;06;00 - 01;06;29;17
Speaker 1
Technically? Why do we do this as a default? The first thing that's coming to my intuition is this starts with religion, where it's always teaching you that you need to give more of yourself, you need to give of yourself, and that is selfless and that is kind and that is beautiful. And that's what makes you a good person, is giving of yourself over giving up for yourself.

01;06;29;19 - 01;06;31;26
Speaker 2
That's where it crosses the line into martyrdom.

01;06;32;03 - 01;06;55;10
Speaker 1
Yes, of course, the martyrdom syndrome, which ends up being oh, poor me, or it ends up being resentment. And here's the thing. I can speak to this very clearly because I am a recovering people pleaser. The problem with all of that narrative is that on the surface it looks like, oh, I'm being really kind. I'm doing all of these really nice things for all these people.

01;06;55;12 - 01;07;12;10
Speaker 1
But how do you know that? It's a nice thing for that person because they didn't tell you you're just doing something for the sake of doing it. And then when you look at it from a past life standpoint, from a sole purpose standpoint, from a life purpose standpoint, you don't know what that person signed up to experience in this life.

01;07;12;11 - 01;07;29;09
Speaker 1
You may be actually interfering with what they are meant to experience in this life, so they can learn the lessons that they need to learn. You could be prolonging their suffering or their lessons without even realizing that you're doing it because you're interfering. And it's not to say that you can't be nice to people. Of course you want to be kind to somebody.

01;07;29;09 - 01;07;49;10
Speaker 1
You want to do something for somebody. We're not talking about little nice things that we do for people in in everyday situations. We're talking about constant seeking, of approval of another constant insecurity of how the other person feels about you. And so you feel like you need to do something in order to make them like you. That's the difference.

01;07;49;13 - 01;08;07;09
Speaker 1
So if you're going to abandon yourself for somebody else, that is classic clear cut, codependency. Cut and dry. You don't need to be anything. You don't need to do anything to be loved. And if you feel like you have to, you might want to take a look at how that person is showing you love and how you're receiving it as well.

01;08;07;12 - 01;08;12;09
Speaker 2
Right? So it's all about the energy with which we approach the act, like the intention of it.

01;08;12;12 - 01;08;30;04
Speaker 1
Yeah, absolutely. So I don't know exactly where this all started, but I know that there are just a ridiculous amount of people who suffer from this belief system that we must sacrifice ourselves for others. And I'm here to say very bluntly, it's a load of crap.

01;08;30;07 - 01;08;37;07
Speaker 2
Not only because you're potentially inconveniencing yourself by doing it, but maybe also the person that you think you're doing a favor for.

01;08;37;10 - 01;08;55;24
Speaker 1
Yeah, so the solution to that is simply communication. It's just talking to the person saying, hey, I feel like doing something for you today. I just want to show you my love. What do you need today? And let them tell you. Or if they're asking you to do something and you have zero energy, you're exhausted, that you have the ability to say, you know what, I can't today.

01;08;55;26 - 01;09;09;14
Speaker 1
I'm really sorry. I'm totally depleted and totally exhausted. Can we can we do this tomorrow? And the other person says lovingly, yes, of course. Take care of yourself. That is a conscious relationship.

01;09;09;16 - 01;09;20;00
Speaker 2
And the right course of action is always guided by what it is that we genuinely want to do, not what we feel obliged to do or what we feel we should do or anything like that.

01;09;20;02 - 01;09;39;26
Speaker 1
Yeah, the challenge with this is also that you have to know how you feel inside, and if you're not used to checking in with how you feel inside, then it's going to be a challenge for you. If you're wondering how to check in and how to figure out how you're feeling, then those are some of the things that I help people unlock and help people move through.

01;09;40;02 - 01;10;02;21
Speaker 1
Because if you're not used to it, it sounds like it's a very simple thing to know exactly how you feel, but weirdly enough, that stuff can elude you. It really can if you bury that stuff deep. If it's deep in your subconscious, you might not know exactly what's going on. So to bring it back to your question, which is basically, how do we know what we're feeling inside and how hard that is to begin with?

01;10;02;23 - 01;10;19;28
Speaker 1
Then on top of that, you have the extra added layer of the potential of a childhood where people were invalidating your feelings so it could be multi-layered as to why you're having a hard time connecting in. And then also men, they're often taught that they can't feel their emotions, so there's that too.

01;10;19;28 - 01;10;25;24
Speaker 2
All right, well, you've answered all the questions that I had for you today. Is there anything else that you would like to add?

01;10;25;26 - 01;10;50;09
Speaker 1
There is a beauty in this type of connection when there isn't anything wrong. There is, a loving nature of finding out this type of information when you're not trying to solve a problem, and that's something that is rare nowadays. Most of the time when people are coming to a session or going to therapy, it's because there's a problem and then they want to fix it.

01;10;50;10 - 01;11;16;25
Speaker 1
The beauty of this that transpired with Phoebe and Zoe is that they didn't come with a problem. They just came with curiosity and with that allowed growth as well as even a heads up for potential issues down the road. So this vow that they had taken together, they were able to consciously rewrite it so they could feel free in their relationship.

01;11;16;28 - 01;11;34;14
Speaker 1
A lot of times the karmic bonds, the karmic ties, the vows, all of those things can make it feel really heavy within a relationship. Being able to rewrite a vow or get rid of the vowel together can make all the difference in the world and the energy of a relationship. And so they didn't even know that that was something that they wanted or needed to work on.

01;11;34;14 - 01;11;55;05
Speaker 1
And if you remember, in the beginning of the session, they were like, oh, we don't want to get rid of that. That sounds like it's a great vow. But then as everything unfolded, they started to realize, oh yeah, I could see how that could be somewhat co dependent. So then allowing yourself to move through those, those types of subject matters before it becomes a problem just makes life that much better.

01;11;55;08 - 01;12;15;18
Speaker 1
So I would encourage people, if you want to get a couples session, whether it's with a family member or boyfriend friend, and make sure that they are as excited about the session as you are, don't be dragging them. I don't want any people coming on and trying to drag the significant other or somebody to get a session, because those sessions will not go well.

01;12;15;18 - 01;12;35;03
Speaker 1
I promise you, as long as the other person is is just as much on board as you are, and you might be able to get to some things that will avoid pitfalls and problems in the future. That would be my takeaway that I would hope that people could get from this particular session is that you don't always have to wait until there's a problem.

01;12;35;06 - 01;12;41;02
Speaker 2
Wise and beautiful words. Thank you. Thank you. So until next time.

01;12;41;04 - 01;13;02;28
Speaker 1
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01;13;03;00 - 01;13;36;04
Speaker 1
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